There are plenty of podcasts that will tell you how Apple’s latest product will affect the tech landscape tomorrow, but there aren’t that many concerned with the potential impact of that tech a decade from now. In a culture obsessed with now, how can we make choices with a view for tomorrow, next year, and beyond?

Episodes (usually) come out every other Tuesday at 7 am Eastern time. If unforeseen scheduling issues arise, we will add a note below accordingly. Episodes are normally 25–30 minutes long.

Current (Season 5)

Episode 5.12 Resisting and Sustaining
September 26, 2017 Reflections on what we said in Season 5 and where we're going in Season 6. (Buckle up!)
Episode 5.11 Fences, Neighbors, Etc.
September 12, 2017 Positive / Visible / Legal:
Vaccinations and the application of force
Episode 5.10 Super Duper, Even Uber Bad
August 02, 2017 Negative / Visible / Social:
Sexism in the tech industry
Episode 5.09 Regulate All The Things!
November 29, 2016 Negative / Visible / Legal:
regulations and the open internet
Episode 5.08b On Andrew Jackson
November 28, 2016 Follow-up: we got this one wrong.
Episode 5.08 Empathy is Hard Work
November 15, 2016 Reflections on the necessity, and the limitations, of empathy in light of the 2016 American election cycle
Episode 5.07 Books, The Internet, and Homeless People (Live at NC State)
November 01, 2016 Positive / Invisible / Legal (Organized):
public libraries and the common good
Episode 5.06 Ghost of a King
October 18, 2016 Art, faith, how culture shapes and is shaped by us, and more in The Gray Havens’ latest album
Episode 5.05 “Faint Not” (Live at NC State)
October 04, 2016 Negative / Invisible / Legal (Organized):
civil forfeiture and entrenched legal evil
Episode 5.04 Stuffy, Boring, Old, Lame
September 20, 2016 Positive / Visible / Social (Organized):
orchestras and the question of “public goods”
Episode 5.03 It's Not Like Uber
September 13, 2016 Positive / Invisible / Social:
saying no to attractive technologies
Episode 5.02 Playing Monopoly:
Never Okay
August 23, 2016 Negative → Positive / Visible / Legal → Social:
marijuana legalization and how systems change.
Episode 5.01 A Ph.D.-Level Math Problem
August 09, 2016 Structures and systems, agency and individuals: three axes (and a sub-axis) for thinking about the world we live in.


Season 4

In our spring 2016 season, we took a long look at globalization: the good, the bad, the ugly. (This was also the first time we planned a season start to finish before we kicked it off, and it shows.)

We talked about everything from international business (4.08: A Ghost in Singapore) to Star Wars (4.03: The Podcast Awakens and 4.04: But Was It a Good Movie?) and from social media in a populist era (4.10: The Ancient Wisdom of Usenet) to the challenges of global benevolence (4.01: Unambiguously Meh, 4.02: Helpiness, and 4.09: We’re Idealist Realists)

Along the way, we developed an important distinction between the reasonable and the justifiable: a way to help us bridge the gap with people we disagree with, while still disagreeing with them—sometimes fervently.

Season 3

Season 3 was our first attempt at doing a more topical season, with an emphasis on the relationship between advertising, busines interests, and capitalism and human flourishing.

We kicked off the season with 3.01: The Ad-Driven Web, Part I and 3.02: The Ad-Driven Web, Part II on July 21 and 28, 2015, respectively, and concluded with some lightning round-style episodes in 3.14: Smorgasbord, Part I and 3.15: Smorgasbord, Part II on October 27 and November 3, 2015, respectively. The season also included our first interview: 3.09: Many Beautiful Things, with Ryan O’Neal of Sleeping at Last.

Season 2

Season 2 began with 2.01: Take My Money Please! on January 27, 2015 and concluded with 2.15: Metapodcasting on May 12, 2015.

Think of this as our “tightening things up now that we know what we’re doing” season and you won’t be far wrong.

Season 1

Our first “official” season—the one that was not a “beta”—started on July 15, 2014, with 1.01: Massive Emotional Contagion, and wrapped up with the release of 1.18: Keep On Keepin’ On on November 18, 2014.

The main hiccup in Season 1? Stephen’s audio. It varies like crazy week to week, for reasons that eluded us. We blame grumpy, grumpy monkeys.

Season 0

Our first season: “This is a beta; bear with us!”—in which we spent a few months just figuring out what we were doing, ran from January 28, 2014 until May 20, 2014. Seriously: we had no idea what we were doing; we just knew we had a good idea for a show and wanted to figure out how to make it work. There is good content here, but we have kept this around mostly for historical interest—it’s rough.

Episodes ranged in length from over 45 minutes to under 20 minutes as we figured out our approach to the show, solicited regular feedback, and general got a handle on the whole thing. By the final episode, 0.14: Deep In Their Bones, we had found our basic formula and settled into a nice rhythm, which we were then able to carry into Season 1.


Chris Krycho is a seminarian, software engineer, writer, and composer.

Stephen Carradini is a digital media scholar, writer, editor, and songwriter.

They both reside in North Carolina.

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